By Philip A. Fisher

Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits β€” Complete Implementation Specification

Based on Philip A. Fisher, Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits (1958)


Table of Contents

  1. Overview
  2. The Growth Investing Philosophy
  3. The 15 Points to Look for in a Common Stock
  4. The Scuttlebutt Method
  5. When to Buy
  6. When to Sell β€” Only Three Reasons
  7. When NOT to Sell
  8. Conservative Investors Sleep Well
  9. Dividends β€” Fisher's Contrarian View
  10. What to Avoid β€” Five Don'ts for Investors
  11. Common Mistakes
  12. Investment Lifecycle Example
  13. Key Quotes

1. Overview

Philip A. Fisher (1907–2004) was one of the most influential investors of the twentieth century, yet he operated in near-total obscurity for most of his career. While his contemporary Benjamin Graham built a vast following around quantitative value investing, Fisher quietly developed a radically different approach: find extraordinary growth companies, understand them deeply through exhaustive qualitative research, and hold them for decades. His firm, Fisher & Company, founded in 1931 in San Francisco, managed money for a small circle of wealthy clients for over sixty years.

Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits, published in 1958, was the first investment book ever to appear on the New York Times bestseller list. It distilled Fisher's quarter-century of investment experience into a systematic framework for identifying companies capable of delivering extraordinary long-term returns. The book's influence has been profound and enduring.

Warren Buffett, the most successful investor in history, has famously described his own approach as "85% Graham, 15% Fisher." That 15% β€” the willingness to pay fair prices for outstanding businesses and to hold them indefinitely β€” transformed Buffett from a cigar-butt value investor into the builder of Berkshire Hathaway. Charlie Munger, Buffett's partner, has acknowledged that Fisher's influence on their partnership was even greater than the 15% figure suggests.

1.1 Fisher vs. Graham β€” The Complementary Geniuses

Graham and Fisher represent two poles of intelligent investing:

Dimension Graham Fisher
Primary focus Quantitative (balance sheet, earnings) Qualitative (management, growth potential)
Research method Financial statements, statistical screening Scuttlebutt β€” industry contacts, interviews
Ideal company Cheap, unloved, statistically undervalued Outstanding, growing, superbly managed
Holding period Until fair value is reached (often 2–3 years) Indefinitely ("almost never")
Diversification Broad (20–30+ stocks) Concentrated (10–12 at most)
Margin of safety Price discount to intrinsic value Quality of the business and management
View on dividends Positive (shareholder return) Skeptical (prefer reinvestment)

Fisher's central insight was that the greatest investment returns come not from buying mediocre companies cheaply, but from buying outstanding companies at reasonable prices and allowing compounding to work over decades. A stock purchased at 20x earnings that grows earnings at 15% annually for 20 years will vastly outperform a stock purchased at 8x earnings with no growth β€” even if the "cheap" stock doubles to fair value.

1.2 The Core Premise

Fisher argued that a relatively small number of companies possess characteristics that make them capable of sustained, above-average growth over long periods. These characteristics are primarily qualitative β€” management quality, research capability, competitive positioning, corporate culture β€” and cannot be identified through financial statements alone. Finding these companies requires extensive on-the-ground research (the "scuttlebutt" method), and once found, they should be held as long as their fundamental qualities remain intact.

The mathematical logic is compelling: an investor who identifies even two or three such companies in a lifetime and holds them through decades of compounding will achieve returns that no amount of clever trading or value screening can match.


2. The Growth Investing Philosophy

2.1 What Makes a Company Truly Outstanding

Fisher defined an outstanding company not by its current size or profitability, but by its potential for sustained above-average growth. Specifically, such a company:

2.2 The Time Horizon Advantage

Fisher believed that the greatest edge available to any investor was the willingness to think and act on a time horizon far longer than the market's. Most market participants β€” traders, analysts, fund managers measured on quarterly performance β€” operate on time horizons of days to months. An investor willing to hold a truly outstanding company for 10, 20, or 30 years has a structural advantage that no amount of short-term cleverness can overcome.

This is because:

  1. Compounding is nonlinear. The difference between 10% and 15% annual growth seems modest over one year. Over 20 years, a dollar grows to $6.73 at 10% but $16.37 at 15%. Over 30 years: $17.45 vs. $66.21.

  2. Transaction costs and taxes are eliminated. Every sale triggers capital gains tax and transaction costs. An investor who holds for 30 years defers all taxes, allowing the full pre-tax return to compound.

  3. Great companies tend to get better. Truly outstanding management teams build competitive advantages that strengthen over time β€” economies of scale, brand loyalty, institutional knowledge, network effects.

2.3 Concentration vs. Diversification

Fisher was an explicit advocate of concentrated portfolios:

Fisher's rationale: "Owning stocks of twenty or thirty companies almost inevitably results in having some that the investor does not have adequate knowledge of." It is far better to own a few companies you understand deeply than many companies you understand superficially.


3. The 15 Points to Look for in a Common Stock

This is the intellectual heart of Fisher's system β€” a qualitative checklist that must be evaluated through extensive research before any investment is made. Each point is not a simple yes/no filter but rather a dimension along which a company's quality must be assessed with nuance and depth.

Point 1: Does the Company Have Products or Services with Sufficient Market Potential to Make Possible a Sizable Increase in Sales for at Least Several Years?

Fisher distinguished between "fortunate and able" companies and "fortunate because they are able" companies. The former happen to be in a growing industry; the latter create their own growth through innovation and execution. Both can be good investments, but the latter are superior because their growth is less dependent on external conditions.

The key question is not "Is the market large?" but "Can this specific company grow significantly within its addressable market?" A company in a $100 billion market with 0.1% share and no competitive advantage is less attractive than a company in a $5 billion market with a dominant and defensible 30% share and clear pathways to expand.

Point 2: Does the Management Have a Determination to Continue to Develop Products or Processes That Will Still Further Increase Total Sales Potentials When the Growth Potentials of Currently Attractive Product Lines Have Largely Been Exploited?

This is Fisher's way of asking: "What happens after the current growth story plays out?" Outstanding companies do not rest on existing products. They maintain a pipeline of new products, services, and market expansions that will drive the next generation of growth.

Fisher warned against companies that have one great product but no culture of innovation. The test is whether management is investing in R&D and new market development proactively β€” before the current growth engine begins to slow β€” not reactively after revenue growth has already stalled.

Point 3: How Effective Are the Company's Research and Development Efforts in Relation to Its Size?

Fisher emphasized results over spending. Some companies spend vast sums on R&D with little to show for it; others achieve breakthrough results on modest budgets. The investor should look at the track record: how many new products or processes has R&D produced in recent years? What percentage of current revenue comes from products developed in the last five years?

Equally important is the coordination between R&D and other functions. Research that produces technically brilliant products with no market demand is wasted. The best companies maintain tight feedback loops between R&D, marketing, and sales.

Point 4: Does the Company Have an Above-Average Sales Organization?

Fisher considered this one of the most underappreciated factors in investment analysis. A company can have the finest products in the world and still fail if it cannot sell them effectively. The investor should assess: How is the sales force organized? What is its reputation among customers? How does it compare to competitors' sales organizations?

This point is particularly difficult to evaluate from outside the company, which is one reason the scuttlebutt method is so critical. Customers and competitors can provide invaluable insight into a company's sales effectiveness.

Point 5: Does the Company Have a Worthwhile Profit Margin?

Fisher was interested not in current margins alone but in the trajectory and sustainability of margins. A company with 25% margins that are declining may be less attractive than one with 15% margins that are expanding.

Key considerations:

Fisher warned against investing in low-margin businesses unless there was a clear, credible path to margin improvement. Companies operating on razor-thin margins have no buffer against setbacks.

Point 6: What Is the Company Doing to Maintain or Improve Profit Margins?

This is a deliberately separate point from Point 5 because Fisher wanted investors to distinguish between the current state of margins and the actions being taken to protect or enhance them. Companies that are actively investing in cost reduction, automation, process improvement, and pricing power are far more likely to sustain high margins over time than those coasting on current advantages.

Point 7: Does the Company Have Outstanding Labor and Personnel Relations?

Fisher viewed labor relations as a leading indicator of management quality and corporate health. Companies with high employee turnover, frequent strikes, or persistent morale problems are signaling deeper dysfunction. Conversely, companies where employees are enthusiastic, loyal, and productive are revealing a management team that knows how to build and sustain a great organization.

Indicators to assess:

Point 8: Does the Company Have Outstanding Executive Relations?

Fisher distinguished between general labor relations and the specific treatment of executives and key personnel. A company that routinely loses talented executives to competitors is revealing a critical weakness. Conversely, a company that attracts and retains top talent is demonstrating something valuable about its culture, compensation, and management quality.

Key questions: Are executives promoted from within or constantly recruited from outside? Is compensation competitive? Is there a depth of management talent, or does the company depend on one or two irreplaceable individuals?

Point 9: Does the Company Have Depth to Its Management?

This is Fisher's way of asking about succession risk and organizational resilience. A company run by a brilliant founder-CEO with no capable lieutenants is a fragile enterprise. As a company grows, its founder must be willing to delegate meaningful authority and develop the next generation of leaders.

Fisher specifically warned against investing in companies where the chief executive "surrounds himself with mediocrity" or refuses to delegate. The test: if the CEO were hit by a bus tomorrow, could the company continue to execute its strategy without missing a beat?

Point 10: How Good Are the Company's Cost Analysis and Accounting Controls?

Fisher argued that no company can maintain superior profitability over the long term without detailed, accurate knowledge of the costs of each product, each operation, and each step in its processes. Companies with poor cost controls will inevitably make bad decisions about pricing, investment, and resource allocation.

This point is difficult for an outside investor to assess directly, but clues include: consistency of financial results with management projections, the quality and detail of financial reporting, and the reputation of the company's accounting and control functions among industry insiders.

Point 11: Are There Other Aspects of the Business, Somewhat Peculiar to the Industry Involved, Which Will Give the Investor Important Clues as to How Outstanding the Company May Be in Relation to Its Competition?

This is Fisher's "catch-all" point, acknowledging that every industry has specific factors that determine competitive advantage. In retail, it might be location strategy and same-store sales growth. In pharmaceuticals, it might be the depth of the clinical pipeline. In technology, it might be the quality of the developer ecosystem. In insurance, it might be the discipline of underwriting.

The investor must develop industry-specific expertise to identify these factors. There is no universal template β€” this is where deep domain knowledge becomes invaluable.

Point 12: Does the Company Have a Short-Range or Long-Range Outlook on Profits?

Fisher strongly favored companies that sacrifice short-term profits for long-term advantage. A company that loses a short-term contract rather than cut corners on quality, or that invests heavily in R&D even when current products are selling well, is demonstrating the kind of long-term orientation that creates sustained value.

Conversely, companies that consistently "manage" quarterly earnings, cut R&D during downturns, or squeeze suppliers and employees to meet short-term targets are destroying long-term value to create the illusion of current performance.

Point 13: In the Foreseeable Future, Will the Growth of the Company Require Sufficient Equity Financing So That the Larger Number of Shares Then Outstanding Will Largely Cancel the Existing Stockholders' Benefit from This Anticipated Growth?

Fisher wanted investors to verify that growth would not come at the cost of excessive dilution. A company that must constantly issue new shares to fund its expansion is not creating value for existing shareholders β€” it is merely spreading value across more shares.

The ideal company generates sufficient cash flow from operations to fund most of its growth internally, or can finance growth through debt at reasonable rates without excessive leverage. Share issuance should be minimal and limited to extraordinary opportunities.

Point 14: Does the Management Talk Freely to Investors About Its Affairs When Things Are Going Well but "Clam Up" When Troubles and Disappointments Occur?

This is one of Fisher's most penetrating tests of management integrity. Every company encounters setbacks. Management that communicates openly about problems β€” explaining what went wrong, what is being done, and what the investor should expect β€” demonstrates the transparency and honesty essential to a trustworthy partnership between shareholders and management.

Management that goes silent during difficulties, provides evasive answers, or attempts to hide problems is signaling that it views shareholders as adversaries rather than partners. Fisher considered this a near-disqualifying flaw.

Point 15: Does the Company Have a Management of Unquestionable Integrity?

Fisher placed this point last because he considered it the most important. All other qualities β€” growth potential, R&D excellence, sales capability, profit margins β€” are worthless if management cannot be trusted. A company run by dishonest or self-dealing executives will eventually destroy shareholder value, no matter how attractive its business fundamentals appear.

Integrity manifests in: honest financial reporting, fair compensation practices, absence of self-dealing transactions, willingness to acknowledge mistakes, and consistent alignment of management's actions with shareholders' interests.


4. The Scuttlebutt Method

4.1 The Concept

"Scuttlebutt" is Fisher's term for the practice of gathering qualitative intelligence about a company from a wide network of knowledgeable sources before making an investment. Fisher believed that the most valuable information about a company cannot be found in financial statements, annual reports, or analyst notes. It exists in the minds of people who interact with the company daily β€” its competitors, suppliers, customers, former employees, and industry experts.

This approach was revolutionary in 1958 and remains profoundly relevant today. Despite the explosion of publicly available financial data, the qualitative factors that drive long-term competitive advantage β€” management quality, corporate culture, customer satisfaction, innovation capability β€” are still best assessed through direct human intelligence.

4.2 Sources of Scuttlebutt (Ranked by Usefulness)

1. Competitors. Fisher considered competitors the single most valuable source of information. Competitors have strong incentives to be honest about a rival's strengths (they must compete against them daily) and can provide detailed, technically informed assessments of product quality, market position, and management capability. When three or four competitors independently acknowledge that a company has a superior product or a more effective sales organization, that is powerful evidence.

2. Suppliers. Vendors who sell to the company can assess its payment practices, purchasing sophistication, growth trajectory, and organizational competence. A supplier who says "they're the most professional purchasing organization we deal with" is providing a meaningful data point about management quality.

3. Customers. Users of the company's products or services can assess quality, reliability, service responsiveness, and competitive positioning. Customer loyalty and willingness to recommend the company's products are powerful indicators of sustainable competitive advantage.

4. Former employees. People who have worked at the company and moved on can provide candid assessments of management quality, corporate culture, internal processes, and strategic direction. Fisher cautioned against relying solely on disgruntled former employees, but a pattern of consistent observations from multiple former employees is highly informative.

5. Industry experts and trade association executives. People who study the industry broadly can provide context on competitive dynamics, technological trends, regulatory developments, and the relative positioning of different companies.

6. University researchers and scientists. Particularly relevant for technology-intensive companies, academic researchers can assess the quality and significance of a company's research efforts.

7. Management of the company itself. Fisher placed this source last deliberately. Management is the least objective source about its own company. However, meeting management is still essential β€” not primarily for the factual information they provide, but for the investor's ability to assess their caliber, honesty, and strategic thinking firsthand. Fisher recommended meeting management only after exhaustive scuttlebutt from other sources, so the investor arrives prepared to ask probing questions and evaluate the candor and depth of the responses.

4.3 The Scuttlebutt Process

  1. Identify a candidate company through preliminary screening (reading industry publications, attending trade shows, following technological developments).
  2. Read all publicly available information β€” annual reports, 10-Ks, proxy statements, analyst reports, trade publications, patent filings.
  3. Map the ecosystem β€” identify the company's key competitors, major suppliers, largest customers, and industry associations.
  4. Conduct interviews β€” systematically contact sources in each category. Fisher found that most businesspeople are willing to discuss competitors and industry dynamics if approached professionally. One interview leads to introductions to other knowledgeable people.
  5. Triangulate and synthesize. No single source is reliable; the power of scuttlebutt lies in the convergence of multiple independent observations. When competitors, suppliers, and customers all point to the same strengths and weaknesses, the investor can be confident in the assessment.
  6. Meet management last. Armed with deep knowledge from other sources, the investor can evaluate management with informed skepticism rather than naive trust.

4.4 Modern Applications

Fisher's scuttlebutt method translates naturally to the modern era:


5. When to Buy

5.1 The Ideal Buying Opportunity

Fisher's ideal buying opportunity was a truly outstanding company experiencing a temporary setback that causes the market to dramatically undervalue its long-term potential. He described this as buying when "something has gone wrong" β€” but the "something" is fixable and does not impair the company's fundamental competitive advantages.

Examples of Fisher-style buying opportunities:

5.2 What NOT to Wait For

Fisher explicitly warned against waiting for the "perfect" price. If the investor has identified a truly outstanding company through rigorous application of the 15 points and the scuttlebutt method, the worst mistake is to fail to buy because the price seems "a little high." Fisher wrote that the stocks that delivered his greatest returns were often ones he considered "somewhat overpriced" at the time of purchase. The power of sustained compounding in an outstanding company overwhelms the importance of the initial purchase price.

5.3 The Buy Decision Framework

  1. Is this company outstanding by the 15-point test? If no, stop. Do not invest.
  2. Has the scuttlebutt confirmed the 15-point assessment? If not, continue research until conviction is established or the thesis is disproved.
  3. Is the stock available at a reasonable price relative to the company's long-term earnings potential? Fisher defined "reasonable" loosely β€” he was not seeking Graham-style bargains but rather prices that were not absurdly inflated relative to the company's multi-year growth trajectory.
  4. Is there a temporary setback or market dislocation creating an even better price? If yes, buy aggressively. If no, buy at current prices rather than risk missing the opportunity entirely.

6. When to Sell β€” Only Three Reasons

Fisher was famously reluctant to sell. He argued that the decision to sell should be far more difficult than the decision to buy, because a truly outstanding company held for decades will generate returns that dwarf any gains from clever trading. He identified exactly three β€” and only three β€” legitimate reasons to sell.

Reason 1: A Mistake Has Been Made in the Original Analysis

The investor's original assessment of the company was wrong. The 15-point evaluation was flawed, the scuttlebutt was misleading, or the investor's judgment was simply incorrect. The company is not the outstanding enterprise it was believed to be.

Fisher stressed that this should be recognized and acted upon as quickly as possible. "The investor who refuses to admit a mistake and holds a fundamentally flawed investment out of stubbornness or pride is committing one of the most costly errors in investing." The loss of capital is painful; the loss of additional capital by refusing to correct the mistake is inexcusable.

Reason 2: The Company No Longer Qualifies Under the 15 Points

The original analysis was correct at the time, but the company has changed. Management has deteriorated, the competitive position has weakened, the culture of innovation has faded, or the growth potential has been permanently impaired.

Fisher warned that this deterioration is often gradual and subtle. The investor must maintain ongoing scuttlebutt to detect it. Warning signs include: loss of key executives, declining R&D productivity, increasing customer complaints, loss of market share to more innovative competitors, and management complacency.

Reason 3: A Significantly Better Opportunity Exists

The investor has identified another company that is so clearly superior β€” offering substantially greater long-term potential β€” that selling the current holding and reinvesting the proceeds will generate meaningfully higher returns even after accounting for capital gains taxes and transaction costs.

Fisher considered this the rarest of the three reasons. Truly outstanding companies are so rare that finding one that clearly dominates an existing holding is unusual. The bar should be very high: the new opportunity must be not just "somewhat better" but dramatically superior to justify the costs and risks of switching.


7. When NOT to Sell

Fisher devoted as much attention to reasons NOT to sell as to reasons to sell, because he believed that premature selling was the most common and costly mistake made by otherwise intelligent investors.

7.1 Never Sell Because the Price Has Gone Up

"If the job has been correctly done when a common stock is purchased, the time to sell it is β€” almost never." A stock that has doubled or tripled in price may have merely begun its long-term advance. Selling a truly outstanding company because it has appreciated substantially is the investment equivalent of pulling your flowers and watering your weeds.

Fisher gave numerous examples of investors who sold outstanding companies after 100%, 200%, or 500% gains, only to watch the stocks appreciate another 1,000% or more over the following decade. The regret of premature selling is far more painful than any temporary decline from holding through volatility.

7.2 Never Sell Because of Overvaluation Fears

Fisher directly contradicted the conventional wisdom that investors should sell stocks that appear "overvalued." His argument: if the company is truly outstanding, its future earnings will almost certainly exceed current estimates. What appears to be a 40x P/E ratio today may prove to be a 15x P/E ratio on earnings three years hence, and a 6x P/E on earnings eight years hence.

The investor who sells a great company at a "high" P/E and plans to buy it back at a lower price faces three problems:

  1. The "lower price" may never arrive β€” the company may simply grow into its valuation.
  2. If the price does decline, the investor must have the courage to repurchase β€” and the same "overvaluation" concerns that prompted the sale will likely prevent the repurchase.
  3. Capital gains taxes are triggered on the sale, permanently destroying a portion of the investor's capital.

7.3 Never Sell Because of a Market Decline

A general market decline, recession, or panic is not a reason to sell an outstanding company. In fact, it is typically a reason to buy more. Fisher's best investments were companies he held through multiple market declines, recessions, and even bear markets. Each time, the stock eventually recovered and went on to new highs, because the underlying business continued to grow and strengthen.

7.4 Never Sell Because the Price Is "High" Relative to Historical Levels

A stock at its all-time high is not necessarily overvalued. If the underlying business has grown substantially, a new all-time high price may represent a lower valuation than a previous all-time high. Fisher believed that anchoring to past prices was one of the most pernicious psychological traps in investing.


8. Conservative Investors Sleep Well

Fisher devoted a significant portion of the book to arguing that growth investing, properly practiced, is actually more conservative than traditional "conservative" investing in bonds, utilities, and blue chips.

8.1 The Four Dimensions of a Conservative Investment

Fisher defined a truly conservative investment as one possessing:

  1. Production and marketing superiority. The company produces and sells its products or services more effectively than any competitor. This superiority must be sustainable β€” rooted in organizational capability, not temporary advantages.

  2. People and personnel. The company's workforce, from the factory floor to the executive suite, is of outstanding quality, deeply committed, and effectively organized. Human capital is the ultimate competitive advantage because it cannot be easily replicated.

  3. Investment characteristics of the business. The company earns high returns on capital, generates strong free cash flow, has a strong balance sheet, and can fund its growth without excessive reliance on external capital.

  4. Price of the stock. Even an outstanding company is not a conservative investment if purchased at a price that already reflects all future growth. However, Fisher set a much lower bar for "reasonable price" than Graham β€” he was willing to pay premium valuations for truly outstanding companies.

8.2 Why Growth Is Truly Conservative

Fisher argued that a portfolio of outstanding growth companies is actually safer than a portfolio of "safe" bonds and utilities because:


9. Dividends β€” Fisher's Contrarian View

9.1 The Case Against Dividends

Fisher held a deeply contrarian view on dividends: he preferred companies that retained and reinvested their earnings rather than paying them out to shareholders. His reasoning was straightforward and compelling:

  1. Tax inefficiency. Dividends are taxed immediately upon receipt. Retained earnings that drive stock price appreciation are not taxed until the stock is sold, and potentially not at all if held until death (stepped-up basis).

  2. Reinvestment opportunity. If a company can earn 15–20% on retained capital, every dollar paid out as a dividend destroys value. The shareholder receiving that dollar in cash will be fortunate to reinvest it at 5–8% in the open market. The company can deploy that capital far more productively than the shareholder.

  3. Signal of limited growth. Fisher argued that high dividend yields often signal that management has run out of attractive reinvestment opportunities. A company paying out 60–70% of earnings as dividends is implicitly admitting that it cannot find profitable uses for that capital internally.

9.2 When Dividends Are Acceptable

Fisher acknowledged that dividends are appropriate in limited circumstances:

However, for the outstanding growth companies Fisher sought, he viewed dividends as value-destroying and preferred zero or minimal payout ratios.

9.3 The Reinvestment Multiplier

Fisher illustrated the power of reinvestment with a thought experiment. Consider two companies, each earning $1 per share:

The investor in Company B sacrifices current income but builds far greater wealth over time. Fisher consistently chose Company B.


10. What to Avoid β€” Five Don'ts for Investors

Don't 1: Don't Buy into Promotional Companies

Fisher warned against investing in companies that are long on promises and short on track records. Start-ups and early-stage companies may have exciting potential, but the vast majority fail. The intelligent growth investor waits until a company has demonstrated β€” through actual results, not projections β€” that it possesses the qualities described in the 15 points.

Don't 2: Don't Ignore a Good Stock Because It Is Traded Over the Counter

Fisher wrote this in 1958 when the over-the-counter market was far less liquid and transparent than major exchanges. His broader point remains valid: do not let the listing venue, market capitalization, or index membership determine your investment decisions. Outstanding companies can be found in all market segments.

Don't 3: Don't Buy a Stock Just Because You Like the "Tone" of Its Annual Report

Annual reports are marketing documents. They are written to impress, not to inform. Fisher insisted that no investment decision should be based on published materials alone β€” the scuttlebutt method exists precisely because the most important information about a company is not found in its promotional literature.

Don't 4: Don't Assume That the High Price at Which a Stock May Be Selling in Relation to Earnings Is Necessarily an Indication That Further Growth in Those Earnings Has Largely Been Already Discounted in the Price

This is Fisher's most famous "don't." The market consistently underestimates the duration and magnitude of growth in truly outstanding companies. A stock at 35x earnings may actually be cheap if the company will grow earnings at 20% annually for the next decade. The mistake is not in paying a high P/E; the mistake is in paying a high P/E for a company that does not deserve it.

Don't 5: Don't Quibble Over Eighths and Quarters

Fisher admonished investors who miss outstanding investments by haggling over tiny price differences. An investor who refuses to buy at $32 because he has a limit order at $31.50, and then watches the stock go to $150 over the next five years, has made a disastrous mistake for a trivial saving. When you have identified a truly outstanding company, buy it. Do not let inconsequential price differences prevent you from making a great investment.


11. Common Mistakes

11.1 Following the Crowd

The most prevalent mistake is investing based on what is popular or fashionable rather than on independent analysis. Fisher observed that the best investment opportunities are almost never the ones everyone is talking about. By the time a company becomes a consensus favorite, most of the easy gains have been captured.

11.2 Overemphasis on Financial Statements

Fisher respected quantitative analysis but believed that excessive focus on financial statements caused investors to miss the qualitative factors that actually drive long-term performance. "The successful investor is usually an individual who is inherently interested in business problems." Numbers tell you what has happened; qualitative analysis tells you what will happen.

11.3 Buying on Price Alone

The opposite of Fisher's approach is buying stocks solely because they are statistically cheap. A company trading at 6x earnings may be cheap for a reason β€” deteriorating competitive position, declining industry, poor management. Fisher argued that it is far better to pay 25x earnings for a company growing at 20% annually than 6x earnings for a company declining at 5% annually.

11.4 Excessive Trading

Every trade incurs costs β€” commissions, bid-ask spreads, market impact, and taxes. More importantly, every sale of an outstanding company eliminates the investor's participation in future compounding. Fisher estimated that the vast majority of investors would dramatically improve their results simply by trading less.

11.5 Lack of Patience

Fisher's approach requires extraordinary patience. The scuttlebutt process takes months. Waiting for the right price may take years. Holding through inevitable setbacks requires emotional fortitude. Most investors lack the temperament for this kind of disciplined, long-term investing β€” which is precisely why it works for those who can practice it.

11.6 Failing to Admit Mistakes

When the original investment thesis proves wrong, the investor must sell promptly and move on. Holding a deteriorating investment out of stubbornness, pride, or hope is one of the most expensive emotional mistakes in investing.


12. Investment Lifecycle Example

Phase 1: Discovery (Months 1–2)

An investor reads in a trade publication that Acme Manufacturing has developed a new industrial process that reduces energy consumption by 40%. Preliminary research reveals: Acme is a $2 billion revenue company, growing at 12% annually, with strong margins and a reputation for innovation. The stock trades at 22x forward earnings. Initial interest is high; the scuttlebutt process begins.

Phase 2: Scuttlebutt Research (Months 2–5)

The investor systematically contacts:

Phase 3: 15-Point Evaluation (Month 5)

The investor evaluates Acme against all 15 points. The company scores highly on 12 points, adequately on 2, and has one area of concern (management depth β€” the company is somewhat dependent on its new CEO). The investor concludes that Acme qualifies as an outstanding company with one risk factor to monitor.

Phase 4: Purchase Decision (Month 6)

The stock trades at 24x forward earnings. This is a premium valuation, but the investor calculates that if Acme grows earnings at 15% annually for the next decade (conservative, given the new process opportunity), the current price implies a terminal P/E of only 6x β€” deeply undervaluing the company's long-term potential.

A temporary setback occurs: Acme misses quarterly earnings by 5% due to a production delay at a new facility. The stock drops 15%. The investor, armed with deep scuttlebutt knowledge, recognizes this as a temporary operational issue and purchases a full position at the discounted price.

Phase 5: Holding and Monitoring (Years 1–15)

Over the next 15 years, the investor:

Results: Acme grows earnings at 14% annually. The stock appreciates from $48 to $340 β€” a 7x return, or approximately 14% annualized. The investor never sells.

Phase 6: The Sell Decision (Year 16)

After 16 years, the investor's scuttlebutt reveals concerning trends: the CEO has retired, and the new leadership is less focused on R&D. Two key engineers have left for a competitor. Customer satisfaction scores are declining. The company no longer passes the 15-point test on Points 2, 3, and 9.

The investor sells the entire position. Sell Reason 2: the company no longer qualifies under the 15 points. The proceeds are reinvested into a new outstanding company identified through the scuttlebutt process.

14. Key Quotes

"I don't want a lot of good investments; I want a few outstanding ones."

"If the job has been correctly done when a common stock is purchased, the time to sell it is β€” almost never."

"The successful investor is usually an individual who is inherently interested in business problems."

"I remember my sense of shock some half-dozen years ago when I first realized that a significant number of the investment community... exposed their portfolios to more risk, not less, by diversifying too much rather than too little."

"Go to five companies in an industry, ask each of them intelligent questions about the points of strength and weakness of the other four, and nine times out of ten a surprisingly detailed and accurate picture of all five will emerge."

"Conservative investors sleep well."

"I believe that the greatest long-range investment profits are never obtained by investing in marginal companies... Profits that should have been outstanding have been reduced to something quite ordinary because buying had been done at a price far too high in relation to the intrinsic worth of what was bought."

"The investor who says 'I'll buy this stock now and sell it if it does not show improvement within six months' is not following Fisher's philosophy. If a stock is properly bought, six months is far too short to judge."

"Don't quibble over eighths and quarters."

"The stock market is filled with individuals who know the price of everything, but the value of nothing."

"More money has probably been lost by investors holding a stock they really did not want until they could 'at least come out even' than from any other single reason."

"Doing what everybody else is doing at the time you are doing it, and having an urge to do it, is almost a guarantee of ultimately poor results."

"Is the company's research truly productive? Is the company getting enough from its research dollar? These are not easy questions to answer. But they are of the greatest significance."

"It is not the buying and the selling that makes the money. It is the waiting."


Philip Fisher managed money for over sixty years and reportedly held some positions for decades. His son, Kenneth Fisher, founder of Fisher Investments, has noted that his father's largest positions β€” including early investments in Motorola, Dow Chemical, and Texas Instruments β€” were held for periods measured in decades, not years. The returns from these holdings dwarfed anything achievable through active trading. Fisher died in 2004 at age 96, having practiced what he preached for longer than most investors' entire careers.